Rule 5, Case 5

Quiz / Scenarios

1. A, 4/2, the nose of the ball touching the B-20. The QB throws a pass toward an eligible receiver that is incomplete at the B-15. (5-3-3b)

Answer: B

2. A, 3/6, A-40. The fullback runs around the right end to the A-44. During the tackle, a linebacker grabs the fullback’s facemask and releases it as he falls to the ground. After the play, the fullback swears at the linebacker. (5-1-2)

Answer: C

3. A, 3/10, B-20. Runner is running around the right end when he is hit and fumbles at the B-24. A defensive player recovers the ball at the B-25 and attempts a backward pass to a teammate. A Team A player intercepts the pass and is tackled at the B-28. (5-3-1, 3-4-3)

Answer: A

4. K, 3/9, K-10. A kicker quick-kicks from the K-5. The kick is short and muffed by a receiver at the K-25. The ball rolls into K’s backfield, where a kicker falls on the ball at the K-8. (6-2-3; 5-1-3f)

Answer: B

5. K, 4/10, K-23. K leads 21-20 with less than 2 minutes remaining in the game. K8’s punt is very short and R23 signals for and makes a fair catch at the K-40. A chooses to snap from the right hash. During the next play, B12 interferes with A88’s attempt to catch a pass and B15 intercepts the ball at the B-28.

Answer: C 

6. K, 4/10, K-23. A legal scrimmage kick is blocked and rolls to the K-28. A receiver muffs the ball, which rolls to the K-20. A kicker picks up the ball and punts it again, and the ball rolls out of bounds at the K-45. (5-1-3e, 6-2-1, 6-2-3)

Answer: C

Rule

Questions

Insights

5.1

5.1.1

Ruling: The third period officially ended when the referee held the ball over his head, and therefore the down error may not be corrected. So the HL is responsible for the down-maker, and getting the correct down. Rule 3-3-5c


No request for coach-referee conference has occurred. In this case the coach notifies the officials that he believes there is an error in the down. Can you clarify this rule? 

The officials can review the downs to ensure that they ruled correctly. No time out is needed. The officials should always know they have the correct through crew communications.

Context (part of rule or case): Incorrect down. Situation B: Second down and six. On the last play of the third period. K38 gains three yards. After the play. The down-marker indicator is flipped to fourth down. 

5.1.2

The 5-1-2-a rule is not making sense to me; the last part in particular "and any dead-ball foul by B" since to reference Case 5-1-2 Situation E: "On plays other than on fourth down, A may gain a first down by virtue of the yards gained or from penalty enforcement". With that, it seems that A could attain a first down from penalty enforcement from a dead ball foul by B, but the rule says "other than"... 

What other live ball fouls by A get enforced from the new established line to gain? 

On a dead ball foul at the end of a play the down will count. On fourth down if A fails to make the line to gain. A will turn over the ball on downs. The dead ball foul would be enforced, and it will be B's ball 1st and 10. 

 

Would need clarification of second question. Not really sure what it is asking. 

Context (part of rule or case): After a first, second or third down, a new series of downs shall be awarded only after considering the effect of any act during the down other than nonplayer or unsportsmanlike conduct fouls by A, and any dead-ball foul by B.

5.1.3

Remember possession changes. If there is an A-B-A possession shift, it would be a new series for A since B had possession and then lost possession and then A gained it back all in one play. 

HL responsibility to look for Ineligible Man Downfield on punt that gets muffed back behind LOS. 

Once R touches a scrimmage kick beyond the NZ it will be a new series for whoever ends up with possession, even if possession is an incomplete pass. 

Context (part of rule or case): d. The team in possession at the end of the down, if there is a change of team possession during the down, unless the penalty is accepted for a non-post-scrimmage kick foul which occurred before the change of possession. CASEBOOK 5.1.3.D (MO)

(Diagram) 3-4-3c, 5-1-3f It is rare for team K to get the ball back during the same down on which it punts. But it can happen, as illustrated in the MechaniGram. It is fourth and 10 on team K's 45-yard line. K1 shanks the punt. R2 muffs the ball at his own 42-yard line and the ball bounces back behind the neutral zone, where K2 recovers at his own 41-yard line. K2 throws a pass intended for an eligible teammate, but it is incomplete. The pass is legal. Since team K was in legal possession at the end of the down, it is a first down for team K at its own 41-yard line. The game clock starts on the snap since a new series was awarded after a legal kick.

5.1.4

Unless first touched by R beyond the neutral zone. If the kickers recover a scrimmage kick in or behind the neutral zone. The ball remains live and belongs
to K and the down counts. 

5.1.5

5.1.6

Rule 5-1-6 (related to right of R to take the ball at the spot of first touching by K) is cancelled... "if the penalty is accepted for any foul committed during the down". Does this mean fouls committed by K or R during the down? 

The rule only refers to R fouls. Fouls by K can be enforced at the end of the run/kick or can be enforced at the previous spot and replay the down.

Context (part of rule or case): In 5-1-3g and 5-1-5e, the right of R to take the ball at the spot of the first touching by K is canceled if R touches the kick and thereafter during the down commits a foul or if the penalty is accepted for any foul committed during the down.

5.2

5.2.1

If a double foul occurs during a down. The number of the next down is the same as that of the down in which the foul occurred. After a distance penalty, the ball belongs to the team in possession at the time of the foul unless it is a 2-16-2h (post-scrimmage kick) foul or kick-catching interference.

Team possession may change if a new series is awarded. Depending on the down and the line to gain at the time of the fouls correct? This would apply to post scrimmage kick fouls or kick catch interference. The "clean hands". 

Context (part of rule or case): Section 2 Down and possession after penalty.

5.2.2

Why is the ball on B's 35 yard line after declining the illegal downfield and accepting the interception that went to the 29 yard line and acceptance of illegal touching (on the 12 yard line)? 

In this play situation. B would decline the ineligible receiver downfield and accept the illegal touch foul. That foul is a 5-yard penalty enforced from the previous spot (30-yard line) with a loss of down. Since this was a 4th down play the ball would be turned over on downs due to the loss of down provision. 1st and 10 for B at the 35-yard line. 

Context (part of rule or case): Situation A

5.2.3

Would an illegal shift and a DPI = a first down for the offense? 

No. They are both live ball fouls. Therefore both penalties will offset and replay the down.

Context (part of rule or case): Clarification?

5.2.4

5.2.5

5.2.6

5.3

5.3.1

5.3.2

Straighten the ball using the furthermost point of the ball if the ball is parallel to LOS or diagonal to sideline. 

Context (part of rule or case): Measurement

5.3.3

In one quiz question spotting the ball going the other direction after a fourth down play team B gained 11 1/2 inches. So the down box now moves from tip of the ball to the end of ball right? Also this only can happen with unsuccessful fourth down attempt correct? So the box moves then the chains are reset to start a new series. 

This is correct after the ball is turned over on downs. The ball will be placed back at the previous spot and the chains will be reset to the other tip of the ball in the direction we will be going. We do not move the ball. Reset the chains.

Context (part of rule or case): On forth and goal from the 5-yard line. The ball is ready for play with the nose
of the ball just touching the 5-yard line. Following A1 incomplete pass. B takes over. The ball shall be spotted in the same position it was at the start of the down.

5.3.4

Why do we move the ball forward according to this scenario but move it back as seen in case book 5.3.4.A

The play ended at the 5-inch line with the tips of the ball pointed to the sideline. The Referee will rotate the ball where the rear tip of the ball is not touching the goal line. 

Context (part of rule or case): 5.3.2.A